Ted Cruz and Beto O’Rourke Clash During Intense First Debate

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The Bexar County Democratic Party headquarters are filled for the watch party.

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The Bexar County Democratic Party headquarters are filled to watch Sen. Ted Cruz and U.S. Rep. Beto O'Rourke, D-El Paso, during their debate.

DALLAS — U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke of El Paso, the Democratic nominee for U.S. Senate, took a newly aggressive tack against Republican incumbent Ted Cruz in their first debate Friday evening.

Appearing at Southern Methodist University, the candidates exchanged rhetorical blows on just about every single question, showing off sharp differences that have long been evident in the race. But what stood out was O’Rourke’s combative posture toward Cruz after spending his campaign until this point largely ignoring the incumbent.

Throughout the debate, O’Rourke repeatedly reminded viewers that he was the only candidate on the stage who has visited all 254 counties in Texas — and forcefully pushed back several times as he came under fire from Cruz.

“This is why people don’t like Washington, D.C. — you just said something that I did not say and attributed it to me,” O’Rourke told Cruz at one point. “This is your trick of the trade, to confuse and incite based on fear.”

The debate was feisty from the opening question, which was about whether “Dreamers” — young people who were brought to the country illegally as children — should be given a path to citizenship. Holding firm on his support for that idea, O’Rourke charged Cruz with promising to “deport each and every single Dreamer — that cannot be the way that Texas leads on this issue.” Without denying it, Cruz shot back that O’Rourke is focused on “fighting for illegal immigrants” and that “Americans are Dreamers.”

Even on the ostensibly positive last question — What do you admire about your opponent? — Cruz appeared to fit in a jab, or at least a back-handed compliment. Going first, O’Rourke said that as a fellow member of Congress, he respected the sacrifice Cruz was making with his family to do what he believed was best for the country.

When it was his turn, Cruz said he admired O’Rourke for being passionate and believing in what he is fighting for — much like Bernie Sanders, the self-described Democratic socialist, Cruz noted.

“True to form,” O’Rourke replied.

The topic of the debate was domestic policy. It was moderated by NBC 5 political reporter Julie Fine and Dallas Morning News political writer Gromer Jeffers.

In more current events, the candidates were asked about Brett Kavanaugh, the U.S. Supreme Court nominee whose confirmation is in question as he faces a sexual misconduct allegation from his high school days. Cruz said the accuser deserves to be heard and treated with respect, while O’Rourke went further, saying there needs to be an FBI investigation into the allegation.

The exchange quickly turned into a broader tiff over judicial nominees, with Cruz seeking to tie O’Rourke to Hillary Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, and claiming they both want judges who would effectively overturn the Second Amendment. O’Rourke denied that and offered another confrontational retort.

“You may not understand how the Senate works, but it’s your job in the Senate to support or not support” nominees, O’Rourke said — to which Cruz pressed him on whether he endorsed Clinton in 2016 (he did) and O’Rourke insisted the question was irrelevant.

Cruz and O’Rourke mixed it up over NFL players kneeling during the national anthem, which O’Rourke has defended in comments that have received national attention.

O’Rourke reiterated at the debate that he believes “there’s nothing more American than” such nonviolent protests, which the players say they are doing to draw attention to racial inequality.

Cruz shot back at O’Rourke that “nowhere in his answer did he address” that, in Cruz’s view, kneeling during the anthem is disrespectful to veterans. Players have a right to protest, Cruz added, when they can do it in a way that does not “disrespect the flag.”

Jeffers asked Cruz why he criticized O’Rourke for jumping to conclusions about Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger, who is accused of fatally shooting a black man in his apartment after she mistook it for her own unit in the same building. Texas Rangers and the Dallas County district attorney quickly charged Guyger with manslaughter.

Cruz said O’Rourke sides against police, voted against funding body armor for law enforcement and is open to abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

“I’ll tell you, it’s a troubling pattern,” Cruz said.

O’Rourke said he’s concerned at the high numbers of black Americans who are killed by white police officers.

“We have something wrong,” O’Rourke said.

The two continued to clash on the question of guns. Asked by moderators if Texas is ready for a senator who will “roll back” gun rights, O’Rourke said he thinks Texas is “ready for a senator who will defend the Second Amendment but will also ensure we can protect the lives in our lives.”

In response, Cruz recalled meeting with victims of the Santa Fe school shooting and them telling him, “Gun control’s not the answer.”

“Thoughts and prayers, Sen. Cruz, are just not gonna cut it anymore,” O’Rourke told Cruz, insisting Texans deserve action to combat gun violence.

“I’m sorry that you don’t like thoughts and prayers,” Cruz shot back. “I will pray for anyone in harm’s way, and I will also do something about it.”

More fireworks flared up as Cruz and O’Rourke tackled the topic of their respective relationships with President Donald Trump.

O’Rourke insisted he would work with anyone who has the best interests of Texas in mind, including Trump. Cruz pounced in his response, bringing up O’Rourke’s support for impeaching Trump.

“As far as I know, Congressman O’Rourke has never spoken to the president other than to publicly call for his impeachment,” Cruz said. “When you are leading the extreme left wing wanting to impeach … the president, that does not set you up for policy wins for Texas.”

Cruz was asked whether he lost his dignity by supporting Trump after losing to him in a bruising 2016 Republican primary that saw Trump deriding the senator’s wife and father. Cruz said that in an election “unlike any other,” he made a conscious decision to put any personal hurt feelings aside for the good of Texans.

“I’ve got a responsibility, which is to fight for everybody here and every person in this state,” he said.

Cruz also touted this year’s income tax overhaul and job growth.

O’Rourke, though, faulted Cruz for not opposing Trump more and said the president undermines American democratic institutions.

“We need a junior senator who will stand up to this president,” O’Rourke said.

O’Rourke was asked about the details of his 1998 drunk-driving arrest in light of a Houston Chronicle report indicating he may have tried to flee the scene of the accident.

“I did not try to leave the scene of the accident,” he said, adding that “driving drunk … is a terrible mistake” for which excuses should not be made.

Cruz responded that he does not “intend to get into Congressman O’Rourke’s personal history, but I will keep the focus on issues and substance” — and pointed to legislation that O’Rourke supported that Cruz said would make it easier for people with drug convictions to get driver’s licenses.

When asked how they represent Texas values, both men took the opportunity to smear their opponent based on campaign contributions. Cruz painted O’Rourke as a far-left ideologue beholden to “liberal interests.” O’Rourke portrayed Cruz as someone who is “captured” by corporations and special interests.

The two did find common ground in one area: When asked about how best to cover the health care needs of Texans, both men said Americans should not be rejected for health care coverage for pre-existing conditions.

The Friday event was the first of three hour-long debates, and it comes as polls continue to show a tight race between Cruz and O’Rourke, an El Paso congressman. On Friday morning, the Cook Political Report changed its rating of the race from “Lean Republican” to “Toss Up.”

The next two debates are scheduled for Sept. 30 in Houston and Oct. 16 in San Antonio. Early voting begins Oct. 22.

It was only a week ago that O’Rourke and Cruz had announced an agreement to hold three debates, capping weeks of negotiations between their campaigns.

O’Rourke first challenged Cruz to six debates in May, and while Cruz maintained he was open to debating his opponent, he did not formally respond until July. That is when Cruz proposed five topical debates over three months in five cities.

Among the issues that O’Rourke had with Cruz’s proposed debate schedule was every one fell on a Friday evening during high school football season. That will remain true for the Dallas debate, while the other two debates they ultimately agreed to are set for different days.

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7 thoughts on “Ted Cruz and Beto O’Rourke Clash During Intense First Debate

  1. I’d been keeping an open mind on voting for Sen Cruz until early in the debate, when he said he could “sum up” his views on immigration in just four words. I hadn’t heard this before, so I was expecting a brief summary of his guiding principles. He proceeded – “Legal”. OK, that would seem self-evident. “Good”. I was wondering if he was going to tie that to some quality standard for potential immigrants, like not being a criminal mastermind. But then came the next words – “Illegal, bad.” And, that, apparently, was that. I was stunned. “Legal, good. Illegal, bad.” Huh? Was he channeling Yoda? Immigration is far too serious an issue, affecting too many good people, to be trivialized this way. Does he think Texans are too simple-minded to handle a comment beyond a kindergarten level? Or is he simply being condescending because he’s convinced we’ll all rush out to the polls to vote for him? Beto comes across as the more serious, thoughtful candidate and, based on last night’s debate, the better choice for Texas.

    • Beto? You mean Robert Francis O’Rourke who agrees that ICE should be demolished. Another Democrat panhandling to minorities for votes.

  2. Please thank Mr. Svitek for his reporting on the Cruz/Beto debate. I watched the debate and I think his recap was a clear picture of what I saw and heard. Especially helpful for those who were not able to view or hear them last night. Please thank him for me. Look forward to his write up of future debates.

  3. Cruz completely blew Beto away. Beto seemed awkward and uncomfortable on stage with his opponent. Cruz gave policy….Beto only talked “feel good” rhetoric.

  4. This is the election to watch in 2018. I am sad that Cruz postponed the 2nd debate to even consider Kavanaugh. This is the problem with both parties though, no one listens to the people!

    Constituents of all stripes are tired of the corruption and hypocrisy in our government. Corporate and billionaire money “speech” has poisoned all branches, including the media.

    In Cruz, we have what that money has bought. In O’Rourke, a stark contrast. I am excited to vote in my first midterm election. We people of Texas need to stand up and be heard. I want leaders that represent my fellow Texans, not the folks that paid for their ads and robocalls.

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